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July 8th, 2008 by 
thien
Super Record is coming back, and it's bringing with it another cog! Campagnolo stopped by to show off the new high end groupset recently and while we get the report written up. Check out this video we shot!
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July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
That lever is really cool!!! I must have it, specially for that third aero position.
fc
July 11th, 2008 at 2:23 am
The lever is even cooler in person. Video and photos don’t do it 100% justice. Full grouppo pricing might be a shocker though…
July 11th, 2008 at 9:49 am
I’m still not sure why Campy decided they need to go to 11 speeds? I’m still doing great on 9 speeds. Just another gimmick…
July 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Campy could have done the awesome new lever without the 11th gear… whatever. Still a cool and functional kit.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I can’t believe anyone is trying to hype up that hand position. On shimano hoods you can alreay do that and people including myself do. The moment campy can do it as well its a feature. Before campy users were always saying its a gimmick of shimano.
Also did anyone notice he said you need a new chain tool? Sure its not a big deal to buy one but adding complications like this is rediculous.
July 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
3rd hand position? didnt shimano invent that. campy ergonomics are terrible and the down shift thumb lever is annoying and in the way. check out the new 7900 shimano. thats the real deal.
11 sp gimmick. isnt it funny when you go more gears in the rear its seems cool, but do a triple up front, youre a wimp.
July 14th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
better use 9 or 10 speed after all what’s the 11th one for…?
I should change my shifter also, shouldn’t I?
July 17th, 2008 at 5:09 am
I’m a little dissapointed in Campy coming out with 11 speeds in the back - afraid it will wear out and be prone to breaking. I think that there are so many areas they could focus on improving, like front shifting (which I believe is weak for all manufacturers). An extra cog in the back does very little for me.
July 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
His watch is pretty fancy.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
The “third position” wasn’t invented by Shimano, it was a likely adaptation of an large cannon looking apparatus sticking off the front of their handlebars. The reason they are mentioning it as a viable hand position is because they actually made the hood contour to your hand so your not just holding on to a block of rubber, it is as natural a fit as if you were resting on them in the other position.
11-tooth? I guess its a little premature to call it a gimmick until we ride it. I always feel the hardest shift is my 11 to 12 tooth shift. Man! I gotta be going 5 mph faster to make that one viable.
My biggest gripe…I wish they were able to eliminate all of the play in both the front and rear shifts. Its really a long push before it even engages, it shouldn’t have any slack in a perfect world.
July 18th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I’m intrigued to see how the 3rd aero position actually feels. Although I do agree with the fact that Shimano invented the third position, having ridden it for almost a decade now I can also say that it’s always been painfully uncomfortable to ride there for any given period of time, even though it feels like a very natural position to be in (mind you this doesn’t even include constantly hitting your thumbs on shift cables). Let’s see if Campy actually did it right.
July 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
To address the complaint that Campagnolo should have put out the new lever shape in 10v, they did.
It’s called Centaur. As much as some of us may hate to put something on our bikes that does not say “RECORD”, those who want to try the new levers can do it, without replacing their entire drive train.
The thumb shifter has always seemed in a great position for me, but I have small hands and prefer to ride farther back on my hoods. Also, Ergopower was designed to run on Italian drops, which put the thumb shifter in the perfect position for sprinting. If you want to talk about gimmicks, let’s talk about “anatomic” bars…
Also, front shifting for Campy has always been better than everything else due to its ability to trim. The Ergopower has a full 8 clicks of trim.
On Shimano:
7900 is leagues better than 7800. The new lever shape is great compared to what it was, and the new levers and sub-routed cables are far more pleasing to the eye,
BUT:
*The shift lever is still the brake lever.
*It’s still not re-build-able/
*The chain and cassette wear out mid season.
To quote Spinal Tap:
“But these go to 11.”
July 21st, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Sounds like they copied the SRAM levers. I’ve been riding mine in the “3rd position” all the time and didn’t know it was something special.
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:26 am
I am not sure if I could improve my performance and my riding confort in my races. The only thing i am sure is that i will spend more money soon with this kind of materials. I feel that there is too much effort in cable based design components. Why nobody wanted to follow the MAVIC electronic shift? I believe that there is a marketing hole.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
11? Hmmm. I did the 3rd position. 11 is getting a lil wild for me. But if the pros need it, I better upgrade too. That will help while on my 40 mile club ride.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:29 am
i totaly agree, cable based sifting systems have been improved to the max, there is nothing left to do to them and the whole system is dated. I think that the big names need to start looking at dfferent methods, either hub gears or electronic shift. Mavic Mektronic worked great- i dont know why it wnt out of fashion. Anyway, im looking forward to dura ace electronic.
With the third position- i beieve shimano did invent it, but by mistake,to really make it their own they shoud have contoured the hoods for the anatomic fit too, they could have done this years ago.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
love the 11speed, I have been on campagnolo since ‘91, I think the ergonomics are better with campagnolo, however the new dura-ace also look pretty cool. and for those who say why the extra cog??? well its the same mentality that said why a derailleur? its easy enough to flip your wheel arround. move on boys its called technology!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Sure it cool its campy. 11th gear to to non-professional won’t matter. 11th gear just means you have to buy a whole new drive train once again more fuel for the campy marketers sell sell sell!
July 26th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Very nice, but I’m still happy with my Centaur. Saw Bobke talking about the new Dura Ace and you would think he was being payed big buck by Shimano for what he was saying. Dura Ace is finally introducing carbon to their components and he makes it sound as if this is the latest thing, he could of said they were finally getting on the band wagon with their concealed brake and shift lever cables, and those new canirings look as if they were lifted off of a department store bike.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Im a duraace roadie,my latest groupset is 7800 in a colnago ct2.Its very obvious that campie is the pacesetters in new bike tech,from 10 speed,carbon components and now the super record 11 speed.I observe that shimano has a better sales marketing than campie in asia.Im saving money to buy the super record in a c50 colnago about middle 09
July 30th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Campy would make lots money if they retrofit the new hood design into their 10speed system. And it’s about time they offered a 12-27, but they could have done this with the 10speed. This is there way of saying, \you want a 12-27 (a broader gear ratio) then buy the 11 speed\. SRAM’s best selling cassette is the 11-28. Shimano took notice and DA 7900 will be available with a 11-28 Cassette.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:50 am
@thien:
Prices are:
Chorus — no change
Record — 3% less
S.Record — 17% more. (yup, that’s what you pay for a few Ti bolts and sprockets and a different grade ceramic bearing).
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:53 am
C’Mon, While Shimano is good stuff Campy kicks the crap out it as far as serviceability, Durability & performance after you got 10,000k on it!
11speed try itn 1st before dissing it! we were all saying the same things when 10 sp came out! Now you gotta have 10sp if you race or are into speed over all types of terrain!
August 4th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Peoples ignorance.
11 speed rings and the same thickness so they wont wear out (spacing is different though). The chain is skinnier, but the inside diameter stays the same. The chain is actually stronger by using higher quality materials.
Losing by milli seconds is a big deal these days, so by narrowing up the spacing, the shifting is actually faster, the throws are shorter and with new finishing on chain rings, the whole group actually lasts longer.
I don’t see why there are so many Haters against this company. Besides the majority boycotting the olympics in China, I guess most people are hypocrites because the haters here do really support mass produce Chinese products. Also I bet you the ignorant mass produce supporting people (yes I still consider you cyclists) also support Global warming considering sram and shimano, once they wear out go straight to the landfill. Don’t forget most of us ride 10 speed, which at one point was 9 speed, at another point was 8 speed, etc… Are we to say the most of the haters here are riding single speeds?
Simply put, you either buy it or not. Or in haters terms, maybe you just can’t afford it.
August 6th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Peoples ignorance.
11 speed rings and cassette rings are the same thickness so they are not going to wear out any faster (spacing between is narrower). The chain is skinnier, but the inside diameter stays the same.
Losing by milli seconds is a big deal these days, so by narrowing up the spacing, the shifting is actually faster, the throws are shorter and with new finishing on chain rings, the whole group actually wears longer.
I don’t see why there are so many Haters against this Campy. Ya, lets support mass produce products in addition we can boycott the olympics in China, I guess most people are hypocrites. Also I bet you the ignorant mass produce supporting people (yes I still consider you cyclists) also support Global warming considering sram and shimano, once they wear out go straight to the landfill. Don’t forget most of us ride 10 speed, which at one point was 9 speed, at another time it was 8 speed, etc… Are we to say the most of the haters here are riding single speeds?
Simply put, you either buy it or not. Or in haters terms, maybe you just can’t afford it.
- Hater myself
August 6th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Mavic was the first to company to create a hood body on the Mektronic with the anatomical “3rd” or “pronghorn” position. The tip of the hood curved in much more dramatically and there was a lot of extra material.
The UCI promptly banned it - said the new design was dangerous in a crash scenario. They trimmed it down to look very similar to the new Campag hood design.
There’s nothing really new in this Campag group.
Sure an extra sprocket is great, but hardly revolutionary.
The new derailleur design is taking Shimano’s wider pivot to its natural conclusion.
One thing though, Super Record is now the flashiest group on the market!
If you’re looking for innovation; look no further than SRAM’s shifter.
Now that’s revolutionary.
August 7th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
I saw post mentioning the chainring size. Does anyone know if the current UT chanring will be compatible with the 11 speed?
August 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
campagnolo kick ass out of shimano!!!!
August 10th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Rebuildable LOL. Yeah, maybe if you average 300 miles a week and wear out the drivetrain in one season. But, we all know Campi will have a brand new revolutionary group in a year or two that everyone will have to have (12 speed, you ready for it? Oh, no that would be nuts, why would we need to go to 12 speed?). Anyway, nobody rebuilds this shit, unless you’re talking about selling it on ebay and getting it in the hands of some guy with a long beard that sits in a shop all day instead of riding, rebuilding drivertrain parts. Nobody rebuilds ANYTHING any more. Use it and toss it. BTW, all the mats in all the shimano groups are recyclable. Maybe that 9 speed ultegra rear will end up as a can of beer someday.
August 10th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Rebuildable LOL. Yeah, maybe if you average 500 miles a week and wear out the drivetrain in one season. But, we all know Campi will have a brand new revolutionary group in a year or two that everyone will have to have (12 speed, you ready for it? Oh, no that would be nuts, why would we need to go to 12 speed?). Anyway, nobody rebuilds this shit, unless you’re talking about selling it on ebay and getting it in the hands of some guy with a long beard that sits in a shop all day instead of riding, rebuilding drivertrain parts. Nobody rebuilds ANYTHING any more. Use it and toss it. BTW, all the mats in all the shimano groups are recyclable. Maybe that 9 speed ultegra rear will end up as a can of beer someday.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
To 150 mi/week: I have 12 road bikes, all full Campy Record 10 gruppo. I average 350-450 miles/week, 15,000-20,000 miles/year. I do lots of very long endurance rides (double centuries), so mileage is my thing (not speed). ErgoLevers typically are at least $320. You can do the math. Without the ability to rebuild the levers, it would kill my budget. I can rebuild a set in 1-hour and $50-90 of parts. The only parts that need changing are the index/coil/return springs, index/ratchet gear. Then it’s good for another 10,000 miles on the mechanicals. I keep the exterior hoods/carbon levers scratchfree, like new. So tossing those away would be an irresponsible waste of good parts, specially those beautiful (and expensive)carbon levers. Even if you do not have the time to do it yourself, Branford Bikes can rebuild it for around $120 bucks (parts/labor), still less than 1/3 of new ErgoLevers. Before you throw any of yours away, let me know, I will pay you to ship all of them to me.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Total gimmick! And a waste of money. I’d go 09 Red if I wanted the best groupo out. SRAM makes an 11-28 Cassette… Come on campy get with the times! A smaller 5.5 mm chain is going to wear even faster than 10 speed chains.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Hello All
I have two bikes with Campy and one with shimano but the 11 speed is a real temptation with all ceramic and now even less weight, thou the new shimano Durace DI2 looks great too with all electronic shifting .
The more new sets there are on the market the better , one has more too choose from,after all if serviced properly all sets should do their job.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Hi all,
I have been racing since age 14. Now I’m 40, and I’ve allways been using Campagnolo (as we say in Europe). No peoblems what so ever. I have crashed a couple of times, and once broke a carbon Record ‘99 shift lever. Just rebuild it in 25 minutes, using new g-springs, coil, gear and og course the lever. Saved me a small fortune. And it’s really easy. I clean my chains (3 race bikes and 1 mtb), every 200 km. with cheap sulfo, and then clean warm water. It runs and runs and runs. I swap between 2 chains on each bike every 1000 km. This makes it last very very long. Some of my friends drives shimano, and the complain of changing the cassetes and chain quite often, but are otherwise satisfied.
I prefer Campagnolo any day, but don’t min others of course. I like the way one operates the ergopower instead of the sram or shimano models.Other than that it’s mostly about looks and finish and detail, in which Campagnolo have been ahead of the others for decades. I used to drive 500 km a week, now it’s down to 250 km a week. What I use more of is rims and tires/tubes. I lubricate the wheelbearings twice per year, and they last for 10 years and counting.
Cheers, and get some miles on the bikes instead.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:42 am
I saw post mentioning the chainring size. Does anyone know if the current UT chanring will be compatible with the 11 speed? I have a new Ultra Torque crank and need a new set of components anyway. Anyone heard anything.
August 17th, 2008 at 3:41 am
Super Record is being installed next week! Whoooooohoooo!!!
August 19th, 2008 at 12:35 am
All the slow boys ith moe cash than common sense wil race tobuy this speeds? If you cant ride with 9 or 1 speds wll, guess what you cant ride well wih 11 either. Look o ven sloppier sifting,the tll goofy thumb shife in plce and now theymake theirshifter shape basiclly a knockof of Shimanos and cal it 3r handpostion- hy Camie, shim usrs have ha and used thi for years. Bwahhahahahah
August 19th, 2008 at 12:42 am
The components which wear out most on a bike are the cables, cassettes and chainrings so I’m not sure where Mr Greenpeace wannabee is getting his info that campy is somehow better at preventing Global Warming? Maybe you shuold stick to writing fiction novels instead of posting nonsense like you posted above?
August 19th, 2008 at 1:03 am
To the Ultra Cyclist board comedian. If you really have 10-12 bikes which are full Rrecord (you have fist off spent such a ridculous amount for your initial drivetrains cost that no amount of rebuilding shifters will ever make up that initial cost monstrisity). The huge amount of cash you would spend just on your initial drivetrain cost not to mention the cost of replacing your nosebleed price Record cassettes, chains and chainrings would far outweigh the cost difference between rebuilding a shifter for $90-100 versus buying anyones new shifter which by the way will no wear out annually nor nearly as fast s those nosebled price record cassettes,chains and chanrings. You better go take a basic econ 101 course or get off the meds and get back to realty. No one buys Record for cost savings.
August 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Bike races are won by the rider not by who has an extra or a less gear, particulary when it comes to 10 vs 100 speeds. Campys new 11 speed looks very interesting and the change in hood shapes seems very intuitive. For 09′ Shimano seems to have totally hit the nail on the head with the new 7900 range. Not only have they inproved the ergonomics of the shifters including under tape cable routing, but they have also added a quick link on the chain (very handy), a Dura Ace level compact crankset (a great choice for most consumers), but most important of all and what is getting very little press are the huge improvements the have made to the Shimano Flightdeck computer. The Flightdeck now incorporates full HRM functions in addition to altitude, inclination and auto calculated cadence. Being able to operate your HRM from your shifter controls is a HUGE advantage imo. The auto calculated cadence means no more hanging a magnet from your crankarm and a bulky sensor from your seatube. The Flightdeck is wireless including wireless download to your PC which is huge. Shimano seems to have really done their homework on this computer and hands on shifters operation will make this the most cohesive integrated system on the market imo. The inclination and altitude functions are just more icing on the cake. I will be buying the 7900 not only for the shifter improvements but most importantly for the massivlely improved Flightdeck.